macOS Big Sur’s Big Secret

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The visual changes to macOS Big Sur are actually the small part. Snazzy Labs explains why the Mac will soon gain a touchscreen.
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Apple announced macOS 11 Big Sur to much surprise this last week at WWDC. Along with the transition to ARM came a bevy of visual changes (we won’t call them upgrades, per se) and the announcement that Apple Silicon Macs would be able to run iOS apps without modification. Not only that, but that Apple would be placing all iPad and iPhone apps available to download in the Apple Silicon Mac App Store by default unless the developer specifically states that they don’t want it listed. A bunch of multi-touch apps and games require touch input, however, and we’re as sure as ever that touchscreen Macs are on the horizon despite Apple’s insistence that they’re not coming soon. We talk about visual indications we’ve found hidden in macOS Big Sur that help argue why macOS Big Sur hidden secrets hint at a touch-capable future. #macOS #BigSur #SnazzyLabs

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1 Jul 2020



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Alpha Tauri
Alpha Tauri Vor 31 Minute
Ugh, the out-of-context stylus-iPad quote again
soklamon Vor 8 Stunden
well, its indirectly happening already with the ipad on MacOS. there is the new option of using it as a controller of the mac. I guess it is a bridge at least for now
JohnGaltAustria Vor 17 Stunden
Dear Snazzy, what monitor stand are you using in that video?
Superhydef Vor 21 Stunde
touch screen mac? man they would take the touch screen from the ipad if it where possible. lol
Superhydef Vor 21 Stunde
if touch screen macs where to happen , it would cost more than a cyber truck
conreo Vor 23 Stunden
As a Windows user I just want to say to all Apple user : it will take time, it's gone hurt but after a few years you will be happy about this change. But it's their is no guarantee that you don't lose a large part of the Mac experience.
Forbidden User
The big secret about Big Sur? Yeah.. The secret is you just got scammed into buying ordinary everyday hardware overpriced by about 400% with it being assembled by slaves. SURPRISE!
Nisco Racing
Nisco Racing Vor Tag
The are lying to slow down competition. And then one day look we did it and we did not copy anyone.
Gooch Vor Tag
What if they added the apple pen for mac?
robbe4711 Vor Tag
2:30 Jobs was wrong when you use your convertible like a tablet. Most of the time I use my Surface with the keyboard and and the pen. I would not use it with touch only.
Sean Charles
Sean Charles Vor Tag
I blame V-Sauce for this now copied-to-death over animated presentation style where....everything isn't a question....or is it....and ...endless...gags.....what happened to being original. Stopped watching. Yeah, first world problem I know. Maybe I am too old to "get it".
justforthetv Vor Tag
I'm not interested in a touch screen Mac
Chris Simpson
You have the capability and opportunity to test any of these theories, by simply building a hackintosh with a laptop that has a touchscreen. I've done it. On Big Sur even. Yes things are bigger and "easier to touch", however No it is not a pleasant experience nor does it seem like it was designed for that. Could my experience be due to touchscreen drivers implementation? Maybe, idk, other multitouch gestures work just fine on it and just as smooth as one would expect from a trackpad. I think the mixed ergonomics of an iPad with keyboard/mouse might seem like it translates to a laptop as well, and maybe even will for something the macbook air or 13" MBP size, but those ergonomics don't translate to 15-16" sized workstation level laptops. Additionally, you're thought that you can only do multitouch the way they do it in the simulator by pressing cmd and moving the cursor around, you're ignoring the fact that mac trackpads were some of the first touch devices to actually even SUPPORT multitouch. Macs support an array of multitouch gestures already and have before iOS devices even existed. with that you're ignoring the possibility of a multi-cursor environment to visually track multiple finger positions on a trackpad when playing multi-touch-required games, easily mitigating any compatibility requirements with multitouch apps without compromising the ergonomics.
SeaGreen Productions
Sometimes I wonder if these get implemented for an actual release and then apple watches these reviews and go “well time to scrap that idea”
Franklin Michael
Franklin Michael Vor 2 Tage
10:23 you could also use a Magic Trackpad to multitouch and have a cursor like the iPad's which adjusts it's size and shape to fit the buttons it's trying to press. Looking forward to touch Macs.
ThinkingBetter Vor 2 Tage
Don't touch my iMac 27" display! Fingerprints are not welcome.
Trey Dempsey
Trey Dempsey Vor 2 Tage
I had a theory when the butterfly keyboards first came out. They have barely any key travel. They also released the trackpad with an immovable button and haptic feedback. My prediction was that they would replace the keyboard with a giant trackpad using haptic feedback to simulate button presses. The butterfly key was created to "train" us to be okay with very small key travel. Time will tell but that's my theory.
Chris Lee
Chris Lee Vor 2 Tage
I had the same thoughts and they are 100% correct. The only question is timing. We might one more full generation without touch support. From there they may as well change all the OS names to match what they really are: [hardware]OS. phoneOS, padOS, macOS, watchOS. All practically the same reactive OS. Then the devices can be called apple phone, apple pad, apple mac, and apple watch. My concern is that they will be tempted to shut down the platform like they have for iphone and applewatch. They need to be fought on this front now for the iphone as I'd hate to see apple harm their own platform. Otherwise, it's all quite brilliant and the long term planning is impressive. They pull this off and offer a relatively inexpensive mac -> that would give microsoft a run for their money. So much depends on apple keeping an open platform and enabling web apps though ...
M P Vor 2 Tage
I’m hoping the new design of the iMac is going to have an adjustable stand that can turn the screen into a giant iPad Pro basically, with Apple Pencil support. So that you can draw, take notes, etc. You can then attach the pencil to the top of the iMac when done. I’m thinking the new design will basically just be a giant 27 inch iPad Pro with facial recognition for unlocking too.
AKU Vor 2 Tage
Has anyone here considered that they might be adding touch capabilities via their AR glasses rather an actual touch screen? That would even allow older macs that are due to get Big Surr to operate with the same feature sets as a new fancy mac running apple silicon. -(and of course, they get their extra hardware sale)-
Marcus Ahlström
Marcus Ahlström Vor 2 Tage
What if: most of the hardware stays in the keyboard section and the screen only contains a small battery and streaming hardware like airplay 3 whenever that comes out. When you undock the screen it seamlessly switches from direct connect to airplay mode and you could do stuff like 4K video editing or 3D work from anywhere in your house whilst your hardware station stays connected with all your hard drives, NAS servers and other accessories. That way you’ll have all the power you need in a super light and portable package, i could see that being useful from time to time :)
Filip Sádovský
Filip Sádovský Vor 2 Tage
You could be right but it could be also just them unifying low level APIs so they can write one code and use it everywhere optimizing expensive programmer time in process.
ClavéElGarrón Vor 2 Tage
"are you merging ios and macos?? No of course not" HAHahahahahha best joke I ever heard.
SpadesOfPaint Studios
Apple probably wants to keep certain devices separate because that’s what its meant to be not to mention the fact not everything is meant to be amplified truthfully somethings just don’t need to be on everything also they would lose loads of money a touch screen Mac should be it’s own device if anything
B W Vor 2 Tage
I’m just hoping I can instal macOS 11 on my iPad Pro.
Rob Stevenson
Rob Stevenson Vor 2 Tage
Way back before the turn of the century I wrote a web column for a long gone site in which I described a Mac of the future, thinking it would be available around 2015 at the latest. The OS would adjust to whatever size device you wanted to use at the time, and the biggest Mac would be almost a literal desktop, kind of like all the sci-fi movies show. If you’re drawing or drafting a house plan, you use it flat and with a stylus, but you could just flip it up near vertical and pull out your keyboard and mouse to use it for text or spreadsheets or whatever works best in that orientation. It seemed like an obvious thing to predict, but if your head is inside the Cupertino bubble, lots of things that other people think are obvious are not obvious to you. I’m happy they are finally (I hope) getting around to making such a machine.
will8677 Vor 2 Tage
I don't want a touchscreen mac, personally. I want an ARM based 13" macbook in the current air form-factor. I would like to see how much performance they can eek out of an ARM CPU with the same cooling provided by the air platform.
Doodlemaster Vor 2 Tage
Ok I'm not the only one who thought that at 1:24 he was gonna say "becuase it's expensive
Mati EP09
Mati EP09 Vor 3 Tage
Red circle. YOU SEE REED CIRCLE. WHAT DO YOU DO? Answer: click
WCR Vor 3 Tage
0:11 0:37 1:58 3:09 4:14 6:26 8:39 10:06 10:19 11:50 12:16
patto2k Vor 3 Tage
big sewer
L H Vor 3 Tage
Hahaha you are so right
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What feels off is the 11
Dhawal Jaiswal
Dhawal Jaiswal Vor 4 Tage
That is because... Mac OS Big Sur is coming to iPad Pro
Jesse Mitchell
Jesse Mitchell Vor 4 Tage
Ive been an ipad stan since the ipad mini. Yall said theyd never be a main device but i KNEW
Mikkel Christensen
As long as touch is not required well, I have no problem with it. That said i would hate using touch on my computer, as the screen will become unbearably dirty. I have an iPad and that is easily my biggest issue with that particular device I hate looking at a greasy fingerprinty screen but it is almost impossible to avoid.
Dillon Fosa
Dillon Fosa Vor 4 Tage
Use to the natural implementation of a touch screen on my windows pc laptop, the ipad is a glimpse into the future of apple imo. It is a great hybrid balance with the magic keyboard. Can't wait for a touchscreen MacBook pro
Joe cool
Joe cool Vor 4 Tage
Great video, one of your best yet. Snazzy!
Matthew Shields
Matthew Shields Vor 4 Tage
Okay, Windows 10 often has large spacing and pretty much no one complains about it so when it come to MacOS I think that's just a really nit picky non issue. Also touch screens on windows laptops is mostly just a gimic for most device the touch screen is seldomly used.
Bryon Feliksa
Bryon Feliksa Vor 4 Tage
You have great ideas. Have you considered working for Apple? I think you could bring positive change to the company
J A Vor 5 Tage
It seems a bit naive to believe that the Mac won't end up with touch, despite what Phil said. The world changes, Apple changes, users change and so do products and features.
Andrew Buckie
Andrew Buckie Vor 5 Tage
All I can say is I have a touch screen windows laptop and I only touch it by mistake
Nemanja Blagojevic
iMac Pro will be the first with pen and touch input. iPad pro design language etc. At least, I wish it will be
TheAbc45678 Vor 5 Tage
Wow, good insight. Probably prescient.
Ryder Newland
Ryder Newland Vor 5 Tage
What is the game at 3:35?
Ryder Newland
Ryder Newland Vor 5 Tage
Is it really wind waker?!
Michael 0788
Michael 0788 Vor 5 Tage
I hate the argument against a touchscreen. I’d rather have a feature there that I don’t need but have an option to use then want a feature and don’t have it.
Doctor Skodt2
Doctor Skodt2 Vor 5 Tage
Oh, they are coming. Just because Steve said no before he died doesn't mean it won't happen. Steve and Jonny are gone and when Apple makes something based on what already exists, they are like the Japanese- they improve it; not only that, they take that idea and make it work. Sure, they have had their follies like any other company, but they either lead, or they recycle someone else's idea and make it better (like a Metallica cover song).
John McCollin
John McCollin Vor 5 Tage
An iMac with a very small bezel and a stand that could swing the display towards the user (bottom edge on the desk and top edge 4--6" above the desk) might work for games and art but touch screen is irrelevant for spreadsheets, document creation, coding, etc. A laptop with a design similar to the iPad Pro keyboard (again allowing one to move the display into an angled position) would be quite good, however it would kill sales of iPads - so we will never see it. As a user of a MacPro 5,1 with 96Gb RAM and six 28" 4k monitors I am much more interested in any Apple Silicon upgrade to the 2019 MacPro - I'm glad that I have not yet upgraded. And as for Apple supporting 3rd party external touch-screen displays... well I'm not going to hold my breath or buy multiple XDR-touch displays (£10000 plus?). If Apple has a good strategy they need to be more forthcoming with their road-map so that people can plan. Again, breath holding is not recomened.
Edouard Vor 5 Tage
This video is 100% right. While the merging of input methods is acceptable on the iPad Pro as an extension of its use domain, and could be acceptable on a laptop, it is not acceptable when it comes to a large desktop computer: you don’t want to lose screen estate and make your mouse travel twice as much because of larger UI elements, you don’t want your arms in the air, you don’t want to spread finger grease on the screen, especially when you’re a pro user, say a graphic designer. This is preposterous. Apple running after Microsoft is not a good idea for them. Losing their ergonomics good sense either.
tommi1607 Vor 5 Tage
What if I told you they do this spacing and stuff because u can stream from macOS to iPadOS?
lynvingen Vor 6 Tage
Its pronounced "Big Sir" not "Big Sor"
Craig Fritzsche
Craig Fritzsche Vor 6 Tage
Is it a valid reason to not want touchscreen Macs simply because I hate thinking about how a lovely, bright 5K display will look covered with greasy fingerprints....
Evo Vor 6 Tage
I'd be interested to hear your insights on windows 10x and its UI language when it finally makes a debut. Panos has been talking a big game.
Troy Graham
Troy Graham Vor 6 Tage
I forget why I even clicked on this video. Waiting for a big secret. Clicking through 13 minutes of garbage. See description, yeah... just apple catching up again.
nicksurfs1 Vor 7 Tage
The fact that apple didn't come out with a surface studio like product first is what told me the company is truly dying. They used to lead innovation in the industry. What do they do now?
fire surfer
fire surfer Vor 7 Tage
Nice burn at 1:42
JHR Vor 7 Tage
Big Sur on iPad Pro is a better angle on this topic
Benjamin JU
Benjamin JU Vor 7 Tage
let's just say apple made apple silicone touch screen MacBooks and only enable touch input for catalyst app, would that make sense to us? I do somewhat believe that apple will make touch screen MacBook someday but I think they will limit touch area or something similar
Makhwax Vor 7 Tage
Huh it can't outperform windows 10 and UWP apps
Shashank Yadav
Shashank Yadav Vor 7 Tage
who are you to say that Jobs was wrong. Times have changed and so the technology and the requirements of people. Jobs was right at that time, & don't forget that apple is because of JOBS. So please have some respect for him and stop saying that he was wrong. That kind of statement hurts.
marcas06 Vor 7 Tage
Where's the big secret again? Clickbait and really senseless video. And wrong on many levels regarding usability of Mac OS.
wagsbass Vor 8 Tage
Touch on a desktop is just stupid as sliced bread was a great idea
Sam Vor 8 Tage
9:46 lmao cydia and unc0ver
Pedro Gomes
Pedro Gomes Vor 8 Tage
Big sir is ugly and extremely slow I’m moving to windows or Linux mac is terrible software
Ashton Wyss
Ashton Wyss Vor 8 Tage
I feel this is the downfall of mac os...
Shafi A S
Shafi A S Vor 8 Tage
07:06 "Big Sur" in captions is "Big Sewer" 🤣
Funny farts smell funny
8:05 - exactly me thoughts during the presentation! Why would they design all new switches like that?! Does not make any sense when using a mouse. Too fat, too much travel. I‘m 100% sure with Apple Silicon MacOS and iOS especially iPadOS are going to be merging. On going separation wouldn‘t make any sense: Same chipsets (kind of), same architecture, same app foundation. I mean, that‘s they way it has to be with that and the possibilities are unheard of! I‘m expecting a MacBook / MacBookPro with iPad like features, like touchscreen in the same way as the iPad matures into a real computer. And it absolutely makes sense. All those statements about interfaces where just a picture of the moment.
Hans Wurst
Hans Wurst Vor 8 Tage
The Surface Studio... really.... have one in the office... its always on the lowest angle because its just working as a Whiteboard... nothing else... pen input not touch.... mouse because Win10 still isnt there yet...
akschu1 Vor 8 Tage
To Apple.... not only is touch ergonomically terrible, so are your keyboards!
Darth Reflectz
Darth Reflectz Vor 9 Tage
I'm not sure about everyone else, but I find it really odd that people think we need an app for everything on a desktop/laptop environment. Like, who is going to use a twitter app instead of the twitter website on a desktop??? That is simply too inconvenient to have to open all of these separate applications when it is already streamlined using browsers...
Snazzy Labs
Snazzy Labs Vor 9 Tage
Web apps suck compared to native ones. This is a well-known fact.
Mariam Kabir Kabir
Using Apple Product is totally waist of money, COST VERY HIGH BUT LOW SPECIFY, compare to Samsung and Huawei....
weirdwordcombo Vor 9 Tage
apple is surely at a crossroads. i for one will wait until the dust settles in a few years to decide if i will indeed switch from windows to macos. but times are exciting.
Sleepy John
Sleepy John Vor 9 Tage
I. Hate. Touchscreens. User errors on steroids.
D N Vor 9 Tage
It will be a MacBook air which will really be an iPad pro with a solid keyboard
Jason Clouse
Jason Clouse Vor 9 Tage
I still think a touchscreen on a laptop/desktop is an awful idea. I know everybody disagrees with me. But a lot of bad ideas are popular. Pet rocks were once popular too.
Byron MacGreggor
Byron MacGreggor Vor 9 Tage
Anybody explain how he is he playing Wind Waker with an XBOX controller on an iPad at 3:37?
Snazzy Labs
Snazzy Labs Vor 9 Tage
Rishi Som
Rishi Som Vor 9 Tage
Even he has to share Netflix with others
Lallan Singh
Lallan Singh Vor 9 Tage
Apple is moving people from iMac to iCrap do you want one😜
Nebulium Vor 9 Tage
I wonder if they will bring macos support to ipads
Bill Gardyne
Bill Gardyne Vor 9 Tage
Another good analysis. Thank you. Maybe the roll out of the hardware has been constrained by COVID. Standby to standby.
TheRg191 Vor 9 Tage
It makes sense on a MacBook but not on a desktop I can’t see any comfortable scenario where reaching at full stretch across a desk, the width and working height of a 27” or 32” display would ever be comfortable, not for 12 hour work days. I’d rather use a Wacom with a larger desktop display. Plus trying to retouch with ANY fingerprints on a screen is annoying as it stands I can’t begin to entertain the idea of working with a never ending layer of fingerprints and smudges all over the image I’m working on. Any time saved in navigation is negated by constantly having to clean the display.
Etek Dav
Etek Dav Vor 10 Tage
I've had a Windows laptop with a touchscreen since 2012. That is how far Apple is behind.
Cl Gr
Cl Gr Vor 9 Tage
Etek Dav I’ve hade a windows laptop with a cd drive since 2004. That is how far Apple is behind
Vaibhav Chauhan
Vaibhav Chauhan Vor 10 Tage
Nice to see freenas ui used in at 3:52. I along with few other enjoyed developing it at ixsystems.
DanTDMJace Vor 10 Tage
I actually use iPadOS 14 and it is so cool I just updated today
Joshua Lambert
Joshua Lambert Vor 10 Tage
apple os is already bad windows is actually good
Marcus Cordeiro
Marcus Cordeiro Vor 10 Tage
Perfect observations
Stunami Vor 10 Tage
Slippery slope. I love my apple pencil / ipad pro experience. But I would also like to run Procreate on Mac OS with an oversized trackpad that can accept apple pencil as a pen tablet. hmm.
Mike Unsworth
Mike Unsworth Vor 10 Tage
Who wants a dirty, greasy, finger printed screen? Crazy!
Jack Davey
Jack Davey Vor Tag
Thank god no other screens in your life get touched constantly
Armaan Gupta
Armaan Gupta Vor 2 Tage
tHaT's WhErE pApErLiKe CoMeS iN
sebastian Vor 10 Tage
using touch screen macbooks with long fingernails would be almost impossible
Aroo! Vor 10 Tage
This is boring... at 4:02, i have an asus ROG laptop with touch screen that i got back in 2016. Never liked the idea of using a combination of Keyboard-Mouse-Screen. It just really sucks. Why are you talking about this like apple is innovating? Cmon it’s just pathetic. Since Jobs died Apple is just an absurd joke.
BeatZEl!te Vor 11 Tage
Now wait a minute?
Nathan Tankersley
Nathan Tankersley Vor 11 Tage
100 % iPad os and Mac will merge they may still say they are separate yet they will run on the same chips and have all apps work across both so it don’t matter if they call them something different if they are the same apps running on the same chips using the arm instructions and metal api that’s a merged os
Andy Alias
Andy Alias Vor 11 Tage
I doubt they will make an existing Mac a touchscreen ..yet, but introduce a massive iPad or something new that runs macOS first
meouishlycat Vor 11 Tage
0:57 *releases ipad pro* edit: just realized this was in the video so yeah.
John Solo
John Solo Vor 11 Tage
Why do you have trouble saying Big Sur? It's literally just pronounced "ser" like you said it when you were joking.
MISTER Vor 11 Tage
Lol lol lol you guys are getting the windows 8 treatment
O_O Vor 12 Tage
apple is riping off for ages to come.
Gladimir Savinon
Gladimir Savinon Vor 12 Tage
I think apple is gonna eventually hit us with a single board computer with really high specs that can run MacOS and IOS. The furture is docking.
Michael Scharf
Michael Scharf Vor 12 Tage
Big Surface?
Luis Eduardo HD
Luis Eduardo HD Vor 12 Tage
What is the game at 3:37 ?
Luis Eduardo HD
Luis Eduardo HD Vor 9 Tage
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