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The Cognitive Tradeoff Hypothesis S3 (Ep 1)

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Humans are the only Earthlings with complex language. But at what cost was that ability acquired? In this episode, I visit Tetsuro Matsuzawa to learn about his influential cognitive tradeoff hypothesis.
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5 Dez 2018

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John O'Keeffe
John O'Keeffe Vor 27 Minuten
It makes sense though, think about how complex even speaking one language is, the massive dictionary of combinations of words, that even people below average intelligence, have in our heads, and the abstract reasoning we have to put them all together, and we can do this almost instantly during conversations or conversing online. That's not even to mention body language, intonation, or deeper meaning that we pick up instinctively. Like we still can't even train computers to do this shit reliably
Consensus G
Consensus G Vor 57 Minuten
Want to see if you can do it? www.kidsciencechallenge.com/year-four/as_game.php
Drweed
Drweed Vor Stunde
got to 6, got 7 and 8 wrong way around - and never even realised there was a 9 XD
okan koç
okan koç Vor Stunde
You finally, really did it.You maniaaacss.You blow it up.God damn you!!
ZomB1986
ZomB1986 Vor Stunde
You promised s3e1 and s3e3 would be free to watch. Why is e3 not free? I'm disappointed. Please realize not everyone in the world has the finances to pay for youtube red.
llewellRsA
llewellRsA Vor 2 Stunden
Glad I did not evolve from a common ancestor with an ape? .......The habitat developed that yet certain apes in Africa had a similar pressures yet just typical animal communication. Language is part of our engineering.
Lafeo 007
Lafeo 007 Vor 2 Stunden
This was by far the best video I have seen in my life!
R3nting 3arth
R3nting 3arth Vor 2 Stunden
I did not come from a monkey generation
Matchstick 73
Matchstick 73 Vor 2 Stunden
People make fun of this guy, but he is frickin' smart
Ransom Bits
Ransom Bits Vor 2 Stunden
There is no evidence that chimps drove out humans out of the trees, and it seems odd that we could defend ourselves from lions and hyenas out on the plains but not chimps? It is funny that in this IQ test the chimps beat the humans, and it puts into perspective human IQ tests (and explains why some very high IQ people are unwise and often dumb as rocks in many aspects of human behavior). The conclusion that we are not better because we can speak is laughable when we look at the modern world, you have to be seriously ungrateful to come up with that.
Will Turner
Will Turner Vor 2 Stunden
Who noticed Dolan Dark at 12:41 ?
Sandcastle •
Sandcastle • Vor 3 Stunden
Wait, we don't need sky lab to preserve chimps. All chimps need to survive as a species is room to live. This is like the lies China sells everyone about panda conservation.
benjamin forge
benjamin forge Vor 3 Stunden
That is much less memory than the visual buffer
Sandcastle •
Sandcastle • Vor 4 Stunden
Is it really the memory or is it the vision that is important for the task shown at the start of the video. OK, after seeing Michael play around the by himself I can see the difference between the short term memory.
Никита Веретин
Почему дагестанец на превьюшке?
Trestres 23
Trestres 23 Vor 4 Stunden
Wait how did the chimps learned the order of numbers?
We are getting there.
We are getting there. Vor 4 Stunden
Funny how the theory of how we were kicked from the trees is extremely similar to how "god" kicked us out of Eden.
MrZeko3rs
MrZeko3rs Vor 4 Stunden
i wish youtube premium was available in my country! what a show that is!
Alox
Alox Vor 5 Stunden
Intro music gave me the stranger things vibe.
Ryan Herron
Ryan Herron Vor 5 Stunden
when they go mainstream, they change. not a fan.
Khaos Cero
Khaos Cero Vor 5 Stunden
These monkeys were trained to do this. If I sit there for long enough, I would get as good I would imagine. If you look at high skill video game players, esports, speedrunners. there is a lot of instant reflex solving these puzzles their mind has to go through. I'm not fully convinced we lack this skillset at all, just that we are not very much trained for it in daily life.
2Av_Gaming
2Av_Gaming Vor 5 Stunden
こんな真面目そうなおっさんが裏では家をラーメンだらけにしたりいろんなものに卵を投げつけてると思うと草生える
Keith Kitchin
Keith Kitchin Vor 6 Stunden
Trade off hypothesis=fake news
Oded Sayar
Oded Sayar Vor 6 Stunden
I don't think this task gives us any measure of how much better a chimp is than a human... There's a great difference that comes with practice. would the chimp memorize the 9 numbers in 0.5 sec on his first day trying? Would Michael not be able to compete if he trained on this task for a long time each day?
jjcevallos12
jjcevallos12 Vor 6 Stunden
Possibly there is something different about chimpanzee’s vision as well? I noticed that I couldn’t even see all the numbers within the half a second. Could the chimps see and distinguish all 9 objects because they have less accurate vision at the center of the eye, which allows for wider focal point?
Sanaz Pokharel
Sanaz Pokharel Vor 6 Stunden
How does the chip understand numerical order?
Luca Ferri
Luca Ferri Vor 6 Stunden
LO SCIMPANZE RIESCE FARLO ANCHE 3 MINUTI DOPO AVER VISTO I NUMERI ?
Luca Ferri
Luca Ferri Vor 6 Stunden
CAN THE SCIMPANZÉ DO IT ALSO THREE MINUTES AFTER HAVING SEEN THE NUMBERS?
300K subscribers
300K subscribers Vor 7 Stunden
Cant wait to DE-vid Red come here
Templarfreak
Templarfreak Vor 7 Stunden
9:17 And think of it like this, if you have a group of something that can communicate, they don't need to think and have that good of short-term memory in the way of Chimps. You can have 5 different people all looking in different directions and each of them can speak to each other to tell everybody how many there are and this would be just as fast if not faster than the Chimp because the speed that each individual needs to only recognize 1 or 2 important targets is still more then enough.
t1
t1 Vor 7 Stunden
Language combines thousands of years, billions of minds in to one. The ability to transfer knowledge is the backbone of human evolution.
Chedarmentos Brown
Chedarmentos Brown Vor 7 Stunden
We are losing that sharing idea as a society.
AAGAARD YOGA
AAGAARD YOGA Vor 8 Stunden
Absolutely love it!!!!
Wolfgang Kenshin
Wolfgang Kenshin Vor 8 Stunden
Ayumu, whose name means what?
play_station_kid
play_station_kid Vor 8 Stunden
I like to think primates thousands of years ago were problem solvers and found more ways to leave trees in spite of curiosity, not dominance. Like how in the video they repeatedly state that the chimps use short-term memory for quick responses, most likely used as an easy way out to escape danger. Whereas our ancestors typically could've taken challenges head-on, seeking to solve an underlying problem, hence our different feet with short toes and our body's build. I've also wondered where languages really took root whether in rudely name calling through hunger ravages or drawings of landscapes etched from personal tools. Nonetheless, this is all very interesting and I love to hear and see strides in the foundations of knowledge our probable numb skull ancestors ventured in.
Michael Kwan
Michael Kwan Vor 8 Stunden
This was fascinating. Thank you.
Raouf Ziad
Raouf Ziad Vor 9 Stunden
this moment 22:00 is deep
C C
C C Vor 9 Stunden
The only reason I got the DE-vid Premium free trial
Stay Strapped
Stay Strapped Vor 9 Stunden
so the reason monkeys won't turn into humans now is because some stayed in the trees... yeah you lost me there I'm out of here.
greenmumm
greenmumm Vor 9 Stunden
I'm wondering if a human was trained from birth to do these games how they would do. Certainly better, but how better. Kind of hard to figure that out though not really a good thing to put a kid through.
Ben Cribb
Ben Cribb Vor 10 Stunden
Weird how you couldn't beat the chimpanzee at a game he's been mastering his whole life.
Declan Sheppard
Declan Sheppard Vor 10 Stunden
I think it’s possible to beat it with a lot of training
Evarate
Evarate Vor 10 Stunden
This is pretty boring
Joe Norman
Joe Norman Vor 10 Stunden
Wait hold on... chimps know numbers now?
dorito dog
dorito dog Vor 10 Stunden
Ai was just being salty imo.
Yorch Salvador
Yorch Salvador Vor 11 Stunden
¿Qué clase de Netflix es éste?
Andrew Dutchover
Andrew Dutchover Vor 11 Stunden
Can we not introduce a savant to the chimp?
TheSkepticSkwerl
TheSkepticSkwerl Vor 11 Stunden
I would like to see you make this an app. Some humans could do it
Dcvbkyrsscbgdsxcgf
Dcvbkyrsscbgdsxcgf Vor 11 Stunden
What's with all the arm-chair scientists in thus comment section lmao. Yall think you know so much...
Jmbabwe frøm Zimbabwe
Jmbabwe frøm Zimbabwe Vor 11 Stunden
Smart man talks about munkees
TheJoungRed
TheJoungRed Vor 11 Stunden
This content is worth every penny
Frater Alpha
Frater Alpha Vor 12 Stunden
Why aren't they talking about the fact that these animals understand sequential numbers? The memory speed test seems trivial compared to the fact that they understand numbers!!
Recarnated Kronor
Recarnated Kronor Vor 12 Stunden
The meme brought me here
Mudd Cup
Mudd Cup Vor 12 Stunden
This is an interesting theory and may very well be the reason we are developing things which allow us to offload certain things like speech (cell phones, etc) so we can evolve beyond this theorized limitation
Hero_Dylan
Hero_Dylan Vor 13 Stunden
Wait a reverse exorcism?
Hero_Dylan
Hero_Dylan Vor 13 Stunden
Wait a reverse exorcism
PandaSlimez _101
PandaSlimez _101 Vor 13 Stunden
I wonder if a person who couldn't talk or write be able to get this kind of memory
TheNewborn23
TheNewborn23 Vor 13 Stunden
Very interesting, but the way the guy is taking an interview is way too unnatural.
Isi
Isi Vor 13 Stunden
I have an IQ of 153 ... and Iwas only able to remember up to 4 numbers in the time of 0.5s ... But I still feel like humans could do it with alot of exercise.
dbj07c
dbj07c Vor 13 Stunden
Someone has probably already said this but the way this is presented ain't great. You have two variables that are being changed: 1) the training and 2) the species. Yadda, yadda yadda I would love to see how a human does at the task with the same amount of experience.
Unbelievable
Unbelievable Vor 13 Stunden
19:41 Is it impossible though? Or he just needs a bit more training?
ArchNME
ArchNME Vor 13 Stunden
This is kinda bullshit. The humans are not getting equal time to practice as the chimps. I'm sure I could beat these monkeys if I did this dumb game all day everyday for a month like they do.
Derek Spencer
Derek Spencer Vor 13 Stunden
Theoretical Bullshit!!!
Corbin Randel
Corbin Randel Vor 13 Stunden
Or... we didnt come from monkeys...
allanalasro
allanalasro Vor 13 Stunden
It’s funny. You come with all of this from A “some how”. Hahaha. That’s a big some how my friend. And you use a “might had been”. If you take those words out of this. This means nothing my friend.
Robin Lillian
Robin Lillian Vor 13 Stunden
It might not be talking. It might be reading and writing. People who can write have much poorer memories than people who are not literate, because we can keep records instead of relying on our memories. Have the experimenters tried this experiment on pre-literate tribal people? They might be surprised by the result.
Mikey Merritt
Mikey Merritt Vor 14 Stunden
Id felt that it's hard to balance a "go with the flow; live in the moment" mindset and the planning of one's future. Interesting hypothesis.
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what i would like to know, is, what is the best that a human could get at this game, with practice? i've heard of how good some chimpanzees are at this game before, but I have not yet seen a human do it, who has had a lot of practice, like the chimpanzees get.
Rowen Giles
Rowen Giles Vor 14 Stunden
Bullshit. It's not impossible to do the memory tests. Humans just need training that's all. The human mind is capable of anything. Curious to know why he didn't disclose how the chimps knew how to count in the first place... and why didn't he use a savant to compete with the chimp.
Christian Soutomaior
Christian Soutomaior Vor 14 Stunden
me encanto, es el primer vídeo de casi media hora que termino de ver. :)
Justin Achneepineskum
Justin Achneepineskum Vor 14 Stunden
Dude.... it's Brain RAM. Random Access Memory. We're using a lot of RAM just for language, writing, and everything else modern of today.
finkelzo
finkelzo Vor 14 Stunden
This proves chimpanzees have a (short term?) photographic memory, however nothing I saw here supports the cognitive-tradeoff-hypothesis
Xavier Schmedje
Xavier Schmedje Vor 15 Stunden
They should try this test on young children who have not developed language yet and see how they perform.
newyorkiri
newyorkiri Vor 15 Stunden
they're good because their life depends on it, they're on survival mood, food!
Ismail Hussein
Ismail Hussein Vor 15 Stunden
0:55 I managed to mess that up somehow
Eni Jusi
Eni Jusi Vor 15 Stunden
7:13 Whaaa
Cenzo Benzo
Cenzo Benzo Vor 15 Stunden
Oooo the monkey can remember fast.....who cares
Yahya Salam
Yahya Salam Vor 15 Stunden
Anyone else feels that with enough practice it is doable but they're exaggerating that it can't be done by humans?
Joe Levy
Joe Levy Vor 16 Stunden
Primate apologist. How difficult would this game be if you, or any of your viewers, practiced this game every day for six months, and the complexity and speed correlated with accumulated success? The proposition of dropping an individual into unfamiliar territory, and comparing their inferiority to an expert in the field as an argument, makes a poor argument, even when the expert is a trained chimpanzee. Every sort of neural "hard-wiring" is possible when associated with survival, and practiced.
dolforo consca
dolforo consca Vor 16 Stunden
2:17 if language is so good, why there isn't a language 2?
Twisted Fate
Twisted Fate Vor 16 Stunden
I had no problem doing what the chimps did but I was surprised when other people couldn't. This can only mean one thing.... I am a chimp.
SrmthfgRockLee
SrmthfgRockLee Vor 16 Stunden
musicName? intr0
SrmthfgRockLee
SrmthfgRockLee Vor 15 Stunden
Ai i :D:D:D mm I think of artificial intelligence
SrmthfgRockLee
SrmthfgRockLee Vor 16 Stunden
& 06:12 sounds please < 3
SrmthfgRockLee
SrmthfgRockLee Vor 16 Stunden
somewhat # Mind blown as usual
SrmthfgRockLee
SrmthfgRockLee Vor 16 Stunden
wow non payable vdo.video;o
adamsrealm
adamsrealm Vor 16 Stunden
Dislike. Because you have to pay to watch Vsauce.
IsaacOfTheRaine
IsaacOfTheRaine Vor 16 Stunden
I’m only 2 mins in and my theory for the video: We all have 6 senses, the sixth being your sixth sense, and he rest is the obvious sight, taste and all that. If you didn’t know, if you take away one of those senses, the other get stronger, that’s why people sometimes close their eyes when eating food so their taste it 2x as better. You can test this by sitting and watching tv but close your eyes and notice how the sound from the TV has slightly changed. You can also spin around with your eyes closed and try and guess where your tv is. So I’m thinking for the rest of this video, chimpanzees have way better eye sight as they can’t speak which is basically the sense of taste.
C M Sheldon
C M Sheldon Vor 16 Stunden
incredible episode
RANDOM AND STUFFS
RANDOM AND STUFFS Vor 16 Stunden
I think the reason why ayumu is so good at the test is because he do it repeatedly, that is why ayumu had the advantage, Micheal did it for the first time that is why he loss, but overtime i think its possible for Micheal to improve.The test on humans vs chimp must have been done so long ago.
Khalaf Ismail China
Khalaf Ismail China Vor 16 Stunden
Amazing Michael
Mateusz Graczyk
Mateusz Graczyk Vor 16 Stunden
Turn this into logical sense; 'My name is Michael is my middle name which is my surname' .
Lia
Lia Vor 16 Stunden
So cute!!!!! >~
Internet PaTroll
Internet PaTroll Vor 16 Stunden
What happens if you take a human baby and never talk to him/her or teach them any language?
AdobeFlashPlayer
AdobeFlashPlayer Vor 16 Stunden
You’ve been gone for too long, Michael.
Mateusz Graczyk
Mateusz Graczyk Vor 16 Stunden
Plz let me know if you find this online
Mateusz Graczyk
Mateusz Graczyk Vor 16 Stunden
I wanna try this online ma duds
sarah haddad
sarah haddad Vor 16 Stunden
BEST SHOW EVER
Jeremy Jamm
Jeremy Jamm Vor 16 Stunden
Humans are not animals. The evolution theory is fake
Diyaco Shwany
Diyaco Shwany Vor 17 Stunden
This is amazing people are complaining just stop being little children this was such a great video and look at it scientifically look at how important these things are and he is shedding light onto it and making great videos
Num né
Num né Vor 17 Stunden
como si el humano descendiera del mono
ogpnw
ogpnw Vor 17 Stunden
Loved this
tritonmole
tritonmole Vor 17 Stunden
19:33 :D:D:D very human performance under stress
Havel The Ganker
Havel The Ganker Vor 17 Stunden
youtube premium is not available in my country so thx michael
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