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We met the world’s first domesticated foxes

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This week, we meet the very cute and very bizarre result of an almost 60-year-long experiment: they’re foxes that have been specially bred for their dog-like friendliness toward people. We do a little behavior research of our own, and discover what scientists continue to learn from the world’s most famous experiment in domestication. The fox experiment continues under the supervision of Lyudmila Trut at the Institute of Cytology and Genetics. Her book “How to Tame a Fox (and Build a Dog)”, co-authored by Lee Alan Dugatkin, details the history and science behind the experiment.
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11 Sep 2018

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Verge Science
Verge Science Vor 2 Monate
Should we be domesticating wild animals?
Kittycat TDH
Kittycat TDH Vor 2 Tage
Controversial
mui muhadresh
mui muhadresh Vor 2 Tage
NO!
Gabriella Gál
Gabriella Gál Vor 2 Tage
This started as an experiment and brought brilliant results. Better to domesticate than keep in a tiny cage in their entire life than eat...Be vegan :)
Fab San
Fab San Vor 2 Tage
We have already been doing that for thousands of years, mate
Christy Ryuu
Christy Ryuu Vor 2 Tage
No no no... we can't even take care of the issues from our domesticated friends 🤦 Absolutely no
Ninjagone smith
Ninjagone smith Vor 10 Minuten
I love dog's 🐕
Da-Ja's Quality Crap
Da-Ja's Quality Crap Vor 13 Minuten
*PlayStation genes > Xbox genes*
Married 2 MaryJane
Married 2 MaryJane Vor 15 Minuten
I want tame white shark please evolve
mary Lewis
mary Lewis Vor Stunde
Hate their PIN'S you should be ashamed!~!!!!
MrsClippit
MrsClippit Vor Stunde
OMG I LOVE FOXES!!! I WANT ONE!!! I WOULD BE SUCH A GOOD FOX MOM!!
Kingdomall
Kingdomall Vor 2 Stunden
I still don't like dogs. Simply put.
Renan_PS
Renan_PS Vor 3 Stunden
Fox>dog>cat
Tight pwants
Tight pwants Vor 3 Stunden
Those guys wanted petting and you turned your back on em. How does that back any of your theories?
Ary Irfan
Ary Irfan Vor 5 Stunden
WRONG. FOX GO FLOOF
Don Ricco
Don Ricco Vor 6 Stunden
These idiots think they’re like dogs hahahha
The Laughing FoxX
The Laughing FoxX Vor 7 Stunden
I want one!
•Ender Frost•
•Ender Frost• Vor 7 Stunden
I have a question, is there a place near AL (Alabama) where you could adopt foxes and get the food? Because I live there and wanna know if I can, I really want a fox
Chilla 9000
Chilla 9000 Vor 8 Stunden
1900:We'll have flying cars in the future!!! 2018:Imma Domesticate a furry
Tayah Jane
Tayah Jane Vor 10 Stunden
so sad seeing them all in those cages just for human entertainment to be a 'pet'. Honestly just sad.
Charlie K
Charlie K Vor 12 Stunden
If these supposedly tame foxes have not been allowed to interact with humans from the very beginning, then it is not strange that they are cautious when dealing with humans.
Elcrypto
Elcrypto Vor 13 Stunden
When I was growing up in the Yukon...I remember one winter..I was about 6yo and it was very cold.There was a den of foxes living close to our house .The Foxes were very hungry due to the extreme cold and they actually came rite up to our door and we would feed them. It's a memory that stuck in my head still 52 year later.
walkinonthinice
walkinonthinice Vor 16 Stunden
i'd love to domesticate a rhino and let it guard my home
Mythical Starrz
Mythical Starrz Vor 17 Stunden
California ruined the exotic pet thing for everyone and I am sad
mil mil
mil mil Vor 20 Stunden
I get that science needs to move forward. But if "taming" is just another way of taking away their *freedom,* then they should stop. *Seeing a fox caged or on a leash is disgusting* to me. Animals shouldn't be props, slaves, nor toys.
Carlos Eduardo Vieira
Carlos Eduardo Vieira Vor 21 Stunde
So cute
Tony Hibbert
Tony Hibbert Vor Tag
AS A 5 YR OLD I USED TO CHASE AROUND A DOMESTICATED FOX CALLED PERCY ..... THAT WAS OVER 50 YEARS AGO ! PERCY THE FOX RAN AROUND WITH DOGS AND A DUCK ! DOMESTICATED FOXES ARE NOT A NEW IDEA !
Guns And Squips
The white one with the hazel eyes and patches around them is so pretty!! I mean all of them are, but especially that one!
Ggdivhjkjl
Ggdivhjkjl Vor Tag
@2:40, that is INCORRECT! The most violent and aggressive foxes were also selected to breed with each other. After several generations, this resulted in pups so fierce that their keepers were afraid to feed them because of the wounds they inflicted through biting and scratching anyone who so much as touched their cages.
DizzyGEICO
DizzyGEICO Vor Tag
Russian boy edits nature
Joe McMurry
Joe McMurry Vor Tag
I had one over 30 years ago.This is nothing new.
Kirill -
Kirill - Vor Tag
Hello form Novosibirsk here, just fed the fox couple days ago on the street.
FooFee FFit
FooFee FFit Vor Tag
Please fix your phone Thank you
plejaren1
plejaren1 Vor Tag
Let me just point out that today...if we DON'T domesticate wild animals they'll all die out. The government organizations are always busy 1) killing off every species on earth (this is the biggest extinction since the dinosaur extinction) and 2) "PROGRESS" (gag, vomit- quite the opposite) are continually taking up all the land where the wild animals are habituated...it's THEIR territory and where they carry out their natural instinctive cycle of life in nature- and then BOOM- Nature no longer exists and they can't find food OR water.............they aren't coming close and closer in toward people and cities and suburbs- WE are encroaching further and further into THEIRS. Cutting down trees, and all the OTHER destruction and citifying that humans do in their live AGAINST nature ways.
plejaren1
plejaren1 Vor Tag
People have saved WILD foxes (fully grown too) from harm after being hit with a car etc. and they have become the person's pet and are SOOOO extremely loving and even moreso than a dog. It was amazing to see. Wild animals mostly just need to know that not ALL humans are a threat and they change according to THAT awareness.
Floofer Gang
Floofer Gang Vor Tag
Bruh I thought he was Edd Sheeran for a min😂😂
christopher
christopher Vor Tag
Is anybody else annoyed this guy isn't in the middle of the circle?
CLP
CLP Vor Tag
Are these $9000 foxes any more tame than a hand raised wild fox kit like I see all over youtube?
Bradley Shipton
Does anyone have any information on the breed of the dog at 4:42? It looks just like my dog and I've been trying to find out his mix for years
Kiya
Kiya Vor Tag
okay fine i agree with the point that domestication is better than extinction- the one thing i disagree with in here is the *c a g e s*
Goldrusher 3000
4 Seconds
KentrYT
KentrYT Vor Tag
Domesticate red pandas.
Jose Molina
Jose Molina Vor Tag
Russia is always wildin.
GoreTale
GoreTale Vor 2 Tage
stop meddling with nature darn scientists.
KYmachete Guy
KYmachete Guy Vor 2 Tage
If they get stray and breed with actual North American foxes, they'll seriously f up the gene pool. They are a bad idea. I think these people should be allowed to do what they want, but I don't think they should buy semi-domestic foxes from Russia unless they spay/neuter them. Which they might have done, idk. Also California is really ugly. Didn't realize just how bad it is till I saw this video.
Judith Campbell
Judith Campbell Vor 2 Tage
No! We should not be trying to domesticate wild animals! Plus the fact that foxes are more like a cat than a dog! C’mon now get your facts straight.
lucas Rozmus
lucas Rozmus Vor 2 Tage
So they’re are dogs now?
Egon Zentrisch
Egon Zentrisch Vor 2 Tage
So can we ge some Social-Gens from Bonobos and put it in to Humans?
Egon Zentrisch
Egon Zentrisch Vor 2 Tage
What does the Fox say? RING-DING-Ding-Ding-Dingeringeding!!
Alexander F.
Alexander F. Vor 2 Tage
What does the 🦊 say?
Oi
Oi Vor 2 Tage
Wild animals belong in the WILDERNESS, not locked inside a house, we have to stop messing with nature, we are not the "heroes" of nature, we don't "save" animals by locking them inside a cage, we kill them, and we kill their freedom, i'm not a PETA, i'm not a snowflake or anything like that, i just have a brain, and common sense, and i really don't like were this is going, you guys are encouraging the kidnapping of wild animals that get lost
slumpump rump
slumpump rump Vor 2 Tage
my dream has come true. QwQ
Soul Whisper
Soul Whisper Vor 2 Tage
My parents had a fox as a pet in the 70s.... His name was Red.
billy bob
billy bob Vor 2 Tage
Victor *SIT*
ANTIQUEFOTOS
ANTIQUEFOTOS Vor 2 Tage
What he described is selection not evolution
Zhaank
Zhaank Vor 2 Tage
Please please please please please
SnowFox 2074
SnowFox 2074 Vor 2 Tage
I WANT A PET FOX SO BAD!!! But at the same time foxes love being free in the wild...
Duncan Whiting
Duncan Whiting Vor 2 Tage
Now we can ask why they were broken in Melee
Right Hand
Right Hand Vor 2 Tage
No. We should not. These animals are in the ecosystem for a reason.
Elijah Garrison
Elijah Garrison Vor 2 Tage
I’m surprised they only cost $9000 tbh. Some normal dogs cost $1500+
Harry t
Harry t Vor 2 Tage
Aren't foxes dogs? They sure look like a dog
Kat Gibbs-McCoy
Kat Gibbs-McCoy Vor 2 Tage
Foxes are dogs, and many hundreds (thousands) of years ago were women's lap dogs. Wolves and coyotes were bred as common shepherd dogs. When dogs are lost they don't really become "wild" per se' . It is just the most hormonal, aggressive one that does the most breeding, and thus breed their hormones and aggression into their offspring. Most male animals tend to be selfish bullies, not "alphas".Wolves are not the ancestors of modern dogs, but a breed of their own. DNA tests have shown this. They are not even related to German shepherds, who are also a separate breed. Husbandry/breeding is the key word here, not "evolution". Foxes are just as gentle as Pomeranians, and always have been. "Wild" foxes still come up to humans seeking hospitality and care, etc. :-)
porgioli
porgioli Vor 2 Tage
Ain't it weird to say good fox? XD
Ruthann Jones
Ruthann Jones Vor 2 Tage
The russian scientist that started this project, sorry I am unable to spell his name, started because he was trying to create friendly behavior among foxes raised in fur farms. When the coats started changing, domestication syndrome, the more esoteric sciences of domestication took precedence.
Ruthann Jones
Ruthann Jones Vor 2 Tage
The wolves that dogs descended from have no wolf descendants. Current wolves are distant cousins to the modern dog.
IndigoWolf Soul
IndigoWolf Soul Vor 2 Tage
Just leaves the foxes alone. If you want a fox, get a dog or cat. Foxes belong in the wild not in a cage
TheDennyslash
TheDennyslash Vor 2 Tage
8:15 Playstation DNA
Antonio Lourenço
I Love Foxes🦊❤️
BrianaRamos
BrianaRamos Vor 2 Tage
this is just my weird theory on the wolves evolving into dogs thought, but i don’t think that’s true. you know how there’s cheetahs, pumas, tigers, and jaguars? i think that’s the same with wolves, foxes, dogs, and coyotes.
Kevin TheGoat
Kevin TheGoat Vor 2 Tage
Time to domesticate dinosaures, Am i right?
yadda333
yadda333 Vor 2 Tage
Why are we, as humans, so obsessed with making nonhumans like us? In fact, it's not enough for them to just like us--we want to be the center of their world. We want them to be "emotionally available" to us at all times. It's weird, and it's the reason why I hate people that pretend their dogs are their children.
BillyBob2112
BillyBob2112 Vor 2 Tage
Just so you know, the first A in Urbana is pronounced like that in “back”, and the second is pronounced with an “uh” sound.
BillyBob2112
BillyBob2112 Vor 2 Tage
6:50
Gyro
Gyro Vor 2 Tage
i want the white one. now.
James Simmons
James Simmons Vor 2 Tage
Human beings and foxes have both existed on this planet for nearly 100,000 years and you have the audacity to claim that only now have foxes become domesticated? How did you arrive at this conclusion I'd like to know. Sheesh already!!!! Thumbs down for not thinking about things before you start talking.
Unikron
Unikron Vor 2 Tage
Friendliness genes? Horse sh*t! I stopped the video after that statement.
Kee Conner
Kee Conner Vor 2 Tage
I'm no expert on animal science, but wolves may have been easier to "domesticate" because of the bond they use with other members of the pack and can build emotionally connection with humans the same way, but foxes seem to be more complicated because they really don't travel with other foxes in a "pack" so there for them building a bond with humans seemed to work, yet difficult to do so.
Leslie Forsdyke
Leslie Forsdyke Vor 2 Tage
One question that has to be asked about the wolf-dog scenario is how accurate will the results be from a gray or european wolf to a dog, my understanding is that the dog is a descendent of a now extinct subspecies of wolf! although with quite a few breeds of dog modern day wolf species are said to have been added to the mix, to my mind this consideration can only make the question harder to answer! If the experiment was re-done with gray wolves would creating the Labrador still be possible? E.g if we made it look the same and it was bred and trained for the same purpose over thousands of years surely some behaviours would still be slightly different to the common labrador due to behaviors that are unique to its ancestors subspecies!
Clone42
Clone42 Vor 2 Tage
And the most interesting part, the unintended physical changes, are left as a footnote-afterthought. A lot of fluff. "You should read about it, because it's wild!" Maybe you should have talked about it and shown us with all these foxes you had available to us, instead of making us watch you sit in a cage.
Ben Oldenburg
Ben Oldenburg Vor 2 Tage
The question is, what does the fox say?
Marc Perske
Marc Perske Vor 3 Tage
So what your saying is don't eat the chickens???
Andrew Gems
Andrew Gems Vor 3 Tage
May as well domesticate them, before they all go extinct!
segafan93
segafan93 Vor 3 Tage
Human genes affect behavior and intelligence as well.
segafan93
segafan93 Vor 3 Tage
I wonder if the fox cracked his phone.
starchild
starchild Vor 3 Tage
dogs are for losers who need validation from someone doesent matter if its an animal thats why dogs were breed to be so social and seek conformation from its owner.
starchild
starchild Vor 3 Tage
nobody likes gingers shouldve used a different person
Lunati Lunati
Lunati Lunati Vor 3 Tage
That fox in the beginin look like him.
Maxmix Z
Maxmix Z Vor 3 Tage
My dear sir, you should not have domesticated foxes as a beast. It just insinuates that other people do it. I have nothing against you or the foxes, but the place of foxes is in nature, in freedom, being themselves and free to follow their instincts and not as pets. Their place is in nature and not in houses or apartments. Every living being has the right to maintain its origin. Please do not make other people do the same. Let the foxes be free to live in their natural habitats, maintaining their origin, their behaviors and their instincts of origin. Nature and humanity must learn to live in peace, but to maintain their natural behaviors and ways of life of every kind.
Elliott Hartup
Elliott Hartup Vor 3 Tage
God this video scared me for a second, the part where they show the pictures on the phone made me think there was a giant crack across my phone because there was a crack across the phone on screen. Damn I'm an idiot.
Rational Debater
Rational Debater Vor 3 Tage
Never has it been shown that a wolf gave birth to a dog. This experiment will come to nothing.
Rob Sylvia
Rob Sylvia Vor 3 Tage
Coexistence is one thing, trainability is another. Pay $9,000.00 for the animal, then build a large fenced habitat, show them off to your rich friends, feel good about yourself, put them away when you’re done, then go have fun with your dog...man’s true best friend. Timmy falls in a pit, Lassie gets help. Jimmy falls in a pit, foxy shits on him and runs away. No thanks. I prefer the mystery of the fox. Over the years, I had 2 foxes, that came to my yard regularly. Foxes have their little territory, my yard bordered it. They’d watch from the woods. Sit in my yard, scavenge dog food and water, and be gone. That was enjoyable.
Lewis Gordon
Lewis Gordon Vor 3 Tage
Personality wise, similar to my husky Kronos. He’s friendly but usually rather smell a bush than greet a person. Also Kronos usually doesn’t like affection while in public he will accept it at home but rarely seeks it. And if I try to snuggle with him, Kronos leaves after ~ a min. He will lay against me on my bed. Kronos is very bonded to me though, if I leave him outside a store for 5 min Kronos whines until I come out & howls that he’s glad to see me when I do.
Lewis Gordon
Lewis Gordon Vor 3 Tage
Also Kronos has no interest in toys of any kind. He does like to play fight or knaw on my arm (sometimes he chews too hard & I have to tell him “easy”)
david cottrell
david cottrell Vor 3 Tage
Hasn't th I am been done centuries before? Isn't there fox genes in some dog breeds?
Mothy
Mothy Vor 3 Tage
E L I T E G O O D B O Y
CrazyBear65
CrazyBear65 Vor 3 Tage
Does it make you wonder who domesticated the Neanderthals into modern humans?
Öatmeal
Öatmeal Vor 3 Tage
Haha cute floof give me now.
iceblue1969
iceblue1969 Vor 3 Tage
so now dogs and (useless native animal killing cats) are not enough,so we want to domesticate a predator,that in my country australia is responsible along with feral cats for killing off our small marsupials and birds,some to extinction...Very bad idea..
Susie Goodman
Susie Goodman Vor 3 Tage
I love foxes - I have had them in my garden for years but I had to deter them because they gave some of my dogs mange which is a horrible mite so now I am not keen to have them around - very sad !!!
Alexander Stephen
The fact that we have a variety of canine species is not evolution (same family).... Evolution would mean that a wolf to become completely another species (a transmutation of the species into another), for example wolf ---> chimpanzee ----> human. Not wolf and then a dog, the same family....This is bullshit.
Ron Swartz Anonymous
I see something deeper here. Think about not only our behavior but or illnesses like mental. Or learning disabilities ex ex. How much of who we are is an evaluation or digression in our genetic makeup.
Arch Angel
Arch Angel Vor 3 Tage
I can get my favourite animal as a pet? Awesome.
Mr Heru_san
Mr Heru_san Vor 4 Tage
What???? Not cool..... i want some orcas to be domesticated 😏
Lance Bartosh
Lance Bartosh Vor 4 Tage
Personally i believe in domesticating all animals. the way i see it, either they're eventually going to be made extinct or exist solely in zoo's due to humans or domesticated by humans. realistically until mass colonization on other planets with the ability for people on earth to travel to said colonies becomes even a remotely feasible idea, I really don't see majority of the wild surviving the ever expanding population.
Largesse1000
Largesse1000 Vor 4 Tage
This is an urban fantasy brought about by spoilt Westerners in pursuit of the next excitement. This stupidity says far more about insatiable human desire for being entertained than anything to do with wild animals. This is a waste of science.
MAGA #45
MAGA #45 Vor 4 Tage
This is far from being the world’s first domesticated fox. There’s a ton of people who have them as pets. 20 years ago, my friend used to have one and it was basically like his dog. How did you guys come up with this being the world’s first domesticated fox?
Karen
Karen Vor 4 Tage
Maybe they can use this research to domesticate feral blacks so they can begin to function normally in white society.
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